this is one that i've been struggling with since i started hanging out here.
when you get on a thread and quote a scripture with a comment to make a point, the believers who have never been jw's often knee jerk reaction jump all over it, and in essensce say that you cannot understand the passage because you are not a believer like them.. it's as if they are saying what is written and what you have learned about certain passages are automatically wrong just because you were taught from a jw perspective, or that you lack basic reading comprehension.
i agree many of the jw teachings are off, but i can certainly respect more of their interpretations of scriptures than i can of other christian denominations.
NewChapter - The picking and choosing endless. Well don't look at THAT because we don't hold it valid. Look at THIS because we know Jesus, and we know THAT is what he meant while disregarding the rest.
And we all sat there and listened to exactly that for decades! And swallowed it whole. Very well said.
so i thought ill check to see how "strong" the things are i believe in.
im still hooked to allot of the wts's teachings, and i still believe in allot of them , even thought i have enough questions of my own to start my own bible school.. so what would you ask me as a "witness" now, so i can try and defend my faith and by doing so, that i might learn something about myself, and what i believe in..
The only thing that points to the JWs as God's "chosen organization" is what? Their OWN list of criteria! Which happen to me written about them.
Ike others have said, it is a house of cards. Find which one (any one) that falls for you, and the whole things comes down. Be it 607, the impossible Genesis account, 1914... You name it. Just look.
Also, learn how to read the bible and put scriptures in CONTEXT. Something that is rarely done in a KH or WT article. Then read the main supporting scriptures for certain doctrines in context. It will open your eyes!
Good luck on your search for answers
i am feeling rather lazy.
has anyone got the answers for the oral review for this week?
and although i love the personal comments, i do not think my family would enjoy them, so does anyone have the clean cut answers?.
I have them. I would cut and paste, but WAY too much text. And it might make some on here vomit. PM your email, I will forward it
is the obedience the fds expects from jws the same obedience that jw wives owe their jw husbands?.
if yes, would this mean that a jw wife should submit to any medical direction that came from her husband, even if the consequences were serious?
would this mean that it would be right for a jw husband to tell his wife if blood fractions, organ transplant, etc.
At least when we were getting guidance how to fill the bloody card, it was clearly stated that all the choices you put there are totally personal and family, witness, emergency person should not get involved in that part.
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Isnt it interesting how this changes when it suits them? It just basically removes the WTS from any legal responsibility when someone dies from refusing a perfectly reasonable and safe treatment.
Of ourselves, wife's "spiritual safety" supersedes the headship principle. It depends on which side of their mouth it comes from.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134092/gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-alarmist-climate-change.html#ixzz1sujog1zt.
the trend of global warming is science.
hysteria isn't.
They have lost credibility because they make claims that can't be backed up. Unfortunately the general population doesn't educate themselves before forming an opinion. For a while there global warming was considered fact. Now fortunately there is more accurate info available, more studies have been done by people who don't have a financial interest in changing governmental policy or selling "green" products. Read up on solar cycles, it will open your mind a bit.
"environmentalists" (tree huggers) will always try to stop development and establishment, and will make wild claims to do so. I work in the oilsand mining industry in Canada, I see this and hear about it everyday. EVERY single claim made by these people has been proved wrong, but that is another conversation for another day. Take away their Biased BS "info", and they haven't a leg to stand on. they lose one fight, they pick another. It never ends. I never will until we're freezing out asses off.
jesus said in the gospels: when you see jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies then the appointed time of the gentiles has arrived,so it wasn't the first attack in 587 bce.
but jesus said the words,,,,"will be,points to the 2nd attack in about the year 70 ad.
,yes into the future people"!so the idiots that dreamt up 607 bce.
Theyll have to quietly drop the 1914 thing, or just stop bringing attention to the generation thing altogether.
Those who are still in, or still reading the odd mag will notice the society's attention turning more to the "marks of Gods true organization" than historical "proofs" like they used to use.
They just make up a list of things about themselves, and call that the "marks of true Christianity".
Anyone else noticing this?
besides the obvious fact that it is historically ridiculous - can anybody make any sense out of this story?.
god was somehow afraid that man was developing too much technology?
just because they were building a tower?.
Like Found Sheep said, it is just another biblical story to explain a natural process. It would be absurd to actually believe that this was how languages started. Don't forget Genesis 10, which lays out the table of the nations. Noah's sons were spread out, according to their languages. Depending on the translation you use, it might say language, it might say tongue. The tower of Babel story isn't until chapter 11
what percent are single, childless couples and/or couples that have grown children?
i know that can depend on what cultures/countries they are, but what do think across the globe.. what percent are children, six to 18 yrs.
olds?.
Many couples we know our age (early-mid twenties) don't have kinds unless they had them by accident. It's all about waiting until the new system. We had decided that, looks like that will change haha.
Many also worry they couldn't afford it, most young JW couples I know are terrible with money. The feel is a lot different these days that even 10 years ago, a lot more couples don't have plans for kids, just plans to go down to one income and pioneer or things like that.
Just my observation
so this week was stressful and emotional.
my husband's witness family found out that we where not attending meeting anymore.
she stated if "i keep talking like i am i'm going to get myself disfellowshiped.
Welcome!
Clarity, that is very good advice
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Welcome Apollo!
